







In my thesis ‘The "Non"... Within Art and Design’, I researched how other artists and designers cope with bringing different materials together in a piece of art or work Through the physical printed thesis I invoked a transcription of an associational conversation with image researcher Elki Boerdam “This is a transcription from a conversation I, Marleen Vos (M), had with Elki Boerdam (E) on 20th of November 2018. Elki Boerdam is an image researcher who mostly works with association as a tool.”